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257 No. 257
A few weeks ago I hacked into the "promotional" Facebook account of a local right-wing extremist representative using a phishing site. I posted some lulzy stuff on his wall then left, but then I realized I was an idiot. I did the whole thing from my university, on my laptop, but instead of the public wi-fi I used the students' network where you get to sign in with your student ID-number and get a personal IP that I promptly left in that facebook account when I signed in.
Anyway, it was no big deal, I did nothing really harmful and the victim obviously didn't contact the police. I would try to hack more accounts, all of politicians who belong to a certain far-right party.
I would use the same method (phishing) but I'm afraid that if they see more of their accounts hacked they would go to the police, get the first guy, look in his Facebook, see my ip (and link the other hacks to it), call party van on me.
I wonder if the police can still get the login details after a period of time or do they get thrown away after a while?
Anyway, sorry for the textwall, any help much appreciated.
>> No. 258
I think Facebook, Google, Yahoo, et al are located in California. I believe through lobbying and whatnot they are allowed to hold on to records for about 2 years. Of the three, only Google has an established track record of fighting attempts to pull information for the Feds.

In addition, don't forget the relationship the telephone companies have had with the government. Just because Facebook decides to fight does not mean that the FBI couldn't simply determine a time of alteration and then get ISPs to tell them who was accessing Facebook in that timeframe. It would be painful fro them and they wouldn't do it unless they really wanted you, but there are multiple ways to track you down.

In the future, consider other ways to do something like this. In the meantime, it's worthwhile to point out that the far right has always used the "liberal media" and "liberal radical" cards whenever something doesn't go their way. By defacing their site, you gave them more ammunition than harm. They can now claim that they've "scared the radical left" into attacking them, justifying whatever they had already been trying to do. If this representative knows his stuff, you'll have helped strengthen his position than soften it.

Congratulations!
>> No. 259
>>258
Thank you for the answer! It's interesting how one has to go all the way to California to get the login records. I'm not in the USA though, can the phone companies still track down who goes to Facebook?
I will take the last part into consideration. However, these guys already have a massive online presence, they have an organized gang of commenters that love to take over leftist/moderate forums and discussions, so showing that things can go the other way around as well might give their opposition a little confidence boost.
>> No. 260
>>259
Ah, forgive me, I was being US-centric.

Regarding the login records, let us assume the following:
o-You were not in the US when you did this
o-Your target was likewise not in the US
|->If the above is true, then rules about retrieving logs depends on the country in question and can only accurately be determined by research on your end. It's important to note that Facebook has publicly acknowledged devoting employees solely to inquiries and requests from US authorities. It's probable that there are similar groups within Facebook devoted to authorities from other countries as well. It's probable that companies like Google and Yahoo have something like this as well.

If we assume this, however:
o-You were not in the US when you did this
o-Your target was in the US
|->You'll probably be all right as long as you don't keep making the same mistakes. Defacing a site or a Facebook account is easily undone unless you keep doing it. The US authorities (FBI, DHS, etc) probably have more important things on their plate and won't do anything until someone really starts yelling about it.

Regarding phone companies:
According to the Manning/Lamo chat logs, which might be inaccurate, the majority of all communications on the planet go through computers controlled by the NSA. The phone company AT&T was revealed to have servers dedicated to this function. The volume of data, however, is so great that they're really waiting for something to trigger an automated response (such as a set of key words or patterns) before digging into the data. Someone has to really, really want you badly in order to go through that much trouble. If that's the case, defacing a profile or site is the least of your problems.

Hope that helps in some way.
>> No. 261
>>260
op here, thanks again!
>> No. 264
you forgot to put "hacked" in quotation marks you fucking moron


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