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'Could someone point out the part where he raps about riches, bitches and bling? no? Well then why can nobody tell me why he never became famous, or never got any recognition for the schools and orphanages that he built in Afghanistan? Because he's the hero this world deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll ignore him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a martyr.
Immortal technique has become an icon of unselfishness
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can't we all be more like tech and spread the love and knowledge'

What is literature and what is not literature?

Are youtube comments literature?

TO what extent do they deserve literary analysis?
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Literature as I know it is language employed for a purpose; id est a message reflecting higher-order thinking to be transmuted.

Pretty pretentious pedagogy isn't anything though; it isn't trying to saying anything worth saying. It just says something that's been said a million times in a slightly cooler way. It's just pop-ish pleasure, porn without orgasms.

So too, dry witless prose has no artistic merit; it deals with cold hard facts; it's information in it's rawest form.

Let's put this way; take Plato's concept of a perfect thing, in this case, a chair. Plato said that when we call something a chair, we do so because it has "chairness"; that is, it calls to mind the ideal form of a chair. We will never experience a true chair, only our own earthly approximations of a chair. So too, reality exists at a level similar to perfection; the cold facts never truly relay what reality is - not that a rationalist approach isn't the best to take.


Have you ever read Nietzsche's Die Geburt der Tragödie? Or The Birth of Tragedy? His major premise here was that the fusion of Dionysian and Apollonian "Kunsttrieben" ("artistic impulses") forms dramatic arts, or tragedies. He goes on to argue that this fusion has not been achieved since the ancient Greek tragedians. Nietzsche is adamant that the works of Aeschylus and Sophocles represent the apex of artistic creation, the true realization of tragedy; it is with Euripides that tragedy begins its downfall ("Untergang"). Nietzsche objects to Euripides' use of Socratic rationalism in his tragedies, claiming that the infusion of ethics and reason robs tragedy of its foundation, namely the fragile balance of the Dionysian and Apollonian.

The relationship between the Apollonian and Dionysian juxtapositions is apparent, Nietzsche claimed in The Birth of Tragedy, in the interplay of Greek Tragedy: the tragic hero of the drama, the main protagonist, struggles to make order (in the Apollonian sense) of his unjust and chaotic (Dionysian) Fate, though he dies unfulfilled in the end. For the audience of such a drama, Nietzsche claimed, this tragedy allows us to sense an underlying essence, what he called the "Primordial Unity", which revives our Dionysian nature - which is almost indescribably pleasurable. Though he later dropped this concept saying it was “...burdened with all the errors of youth” (Attempt at Self Criticism, §2), the overarching theme was a sort of metaphysical solace or connection with the heart of creation.

Different from Kant's idea of the sublime, the Dionysian is all-inclusive rather than alienating to the viewer as a sublimating experience. The sublime needs critical distance, while the Dionysian demands a closeness of experience. According to Nietzsche, the critical distance, which separates man from his closest emotions, originates in Apollonian ideals, which in turn separate him from his essential connection with self. The Dionysian embraces the chaotic nature of such experience as all-important; not just on its own, but as it is intimately connected with the Apollonian. The Dionysian magnifies man, but only so far as he realizes that he is one and the same with all ordered human experience. The godlike unity of the Dionysian experience is of utmost importance in viewing the Dionysian as it is related to the Apollonian because it emphasizes the harmony that can be found within one’s chaotic experience.


Nietzsche's idea has been interpreted as an expression of fragmented consciousness or existential instability by a variety of modern and post-modern writers, especially Martin Heidegger, Michel Foucault and Gilles Deleuze. According to Peter Sloterdijk, the Dionysian and the Apollonian form a dialectic; they are contrasting, but Nietzsche does not mean one to be valued more than the other. Truth being primordial pain, our existential being is determined by the Dionysian/Apollonian dialectic.

Extending the use of the Apollonian and Dionysian onto an argument on interaction between the mind and physical environment, Abraham Akkerman has pointed to masculine and feminine features of city form.


In these senses, I suppose youtube comments *can* in fact be art, just as any other form of language can, but you're going to be hard pressed to find something that isn't just masturbation or meaningless information. Or, you know, stupid unfunny shitty sophomoric "humor" and VOTE RON PAUL


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